Showing posts with label Origin of fire making. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Origin of fire making. Show all posts

Saturday, 2 August 2025

Oldest symbolic monument

According to this paper, the oldest symbolic monument, that is to say, one with no obvious practical use and probably responding to a belief, is this pile of stones piled up next to a spring at El Guettar (Southern Tunisia)...

This pile of stones formed a regular cone 0.75 meters high and 1.50 meters in diameter at the base. At the top were placed a few flint balls, all the others were limestone spheres...

None of these stones are natually found on site, which means that they were deliberately brought there and arranged in a pile by man. This pile of balls was riddled with Mousterian type chipped flint, which dates the pile to 160,000 to 40,000BP...

What is really really cool and interesting is that this pile of stones was topped with flint nodules. Most likely like these ones I have on my desk...

Flint is the thunder stone...Hitting one flint nodule with another one will produce a weak spark...which looks like lightning...and a smell of burning...like when lightning hits vegetation and ignites it making fire...

Fire which our ancestors had to catch before they learned how to make it...

How old are fairytales about "the hunt for the firebird"? Well they could predate the time when people learned how to make fire...Because before people knew how to make it, fire descended from the sky and had to be found and caught...I talked about this in my article "Fire bird"... 

How was fire making invented? Most likely as a wood drilling accident...I talked about this in my article "Drill"...

And when was fire making invented? Can't be that long time ago, considering the worship of fire and fire makers that persisted until very recently...I talked about this in my articles about the fire creation worship and the invention of the fire drill and the tool for making fire: , "Holly fire drill", "Prometheus", "12 Olympians"...

Now if you replace one of the flint nodules with a pyrite nodule, a spherical or ovoid masses of pyrite, often found in sedimentary rocks together with flint nodules...

You can actually make big enough spark that will allow you to ignite dry bark or grass...and make fire...This process is explained in this video

And believe or not, based on the strike marks found on some flint and pyrite nodules from the same Mousterian period found in Southern France, archaeologists have proposed that Neanderthals used flint and pyrite nodules to make fire. You can read about it in this article...


Using human made lightning...Lightning which most often strikes mountain tops...

Lighting which announces the arrival of rain...Rain which is the source of drinking water...Water which comes out of springs like the one next to which the pile of stones we are talking about was made...

Were people who built this pile of stones topped with flint nodules aware of all this?

And does this mean that the myths and the worship of the fire makers could be over 40,000 years old? You might want to read my articles which talk about the age of (some of) our myths: "Mamaragan", "Dreamtime", "Yeti", "Yeti rivisited", "Third death", "The young one", "Sun mountain", "Partholon and the great flood", "How grain came to Sumer", "Fire bird"...

Sunday, 14 March 2021

Holy fire-drill

The Assyrian king Tukulti-Ninurta I with a torch, worshipping the fire god Nusku. About 1200 BC. The artifact is in Berlin. Pic by petrus.agricola.

In Babylonia and Assyria Nusku is the symbol of the heavenly as well as of the terrestrial fire. As the former he is the son of Anu, the god of heaven...

Well no surprises here. Originally fire from sun descended to earth through lightning...So fire was the child of heaven...

I wrote about this in my article "Sun, Thunder, Fire"...

He was also looked upon as the protector of the family. No surprise here either, as fire has always been "the protector of the family from wild beasts"...

He was also the mediator between humanity and the gods, since it is through the fire on the altar that the offering is brought into the presence of the gods...Fair enough...The smoke of the offerings rises to heaven bringing offerings to the Father Sky...Logical...

The fire-god is also viewed as the patron of the arts and the god of civilization in general. Well a great surprise here...Apparently, because of "the natural association of all human progress with the discovery and use of fire"...

"While temples and sanctuaries to Nusku-Girru are found in Babylonia and Assyria, he is worshipped in a more symbolical form than the other gods"...

What does this even mean? 

Wait for it...

Nusku is basically Asyro Babylonian version of the Sumerian god of fire Gibil, god of fire, the son of An (Sky) and Ki (Earth)...

Well, as I already said, no surprises here. Originally fire from sun descended to earth through lightning...The Sumerians actually spell it out pretty clearly here: The fire is the product of lightning which connects the father sky and mother earth...

In some versions of the Enûma Eliš, Gibil is said to have broad wisdom, and that his mind is "so vast that all the gods, all of them, cannot fathom it". 

Again a great surprise here...Why would fire god be smarter than all the other gods put together?

Some versions state Gibil, as lord of the fire and the forge, also possesses wisdom of metallurgy...Again no surprise here as without fire there can be no metallurgy...

No I went and checked the etymology of the name "Gibil"...I came across a very interesting paper entitled "The Vocabulary of Sumerian" that talks about the habit of Sumerian priests to encode gods' names by inverting them...

So Gibil was written bil-gi, where "bil" means fire and "gi" means reed, stick...So Gibil is not a name. It means fire stick, fire drill...Gibil, the fire god is actually a deified fire stick, the tool used for making fire...



Which is exactly what the Assyrian king Tukulti-Ninurta I is worshiping: a fire stick on a throne, altar...

Babylonians and Assyrians are not worshipping Nusku "in symbolical form"...They are worshiping Nusku in his original form, Gi-Bil, Bil-Gi, Fire Stick...

Anyone stopped to think why would Sumerians, Babylonians, Assyrians, people from some of the most developed ancient civilisations, worship a fire stick? If making fire was by their time already a common knowledge for eeee 1 million years (according to official history books)...

Ah wait. I did 🙂

And I published what I thought about it in these three articles: "Fire-drill", "Fire bird", "Prometheus"

Did Sumerians believe that the fire god possessed unfathomable wisdom, because they considered the invention of fire making to be such an amazing thing, that it could only have been a product of "unfathomable wisdom which all gods together could not get". Let alone mortals...

But that is ridiculous....Right? We all "know" that humans have been able to make fire like for ever...