"The Wends were descended from a group of Slavic tribes that had developed a common language and, in the 10th Century, occupied much of central Europe. ... The Wendish migration to Texas was impelled, in part, by the Prussian insistence that the Wends (or Sorbs, as they called themselves) speak and use the German language, even to the extent of Germanizing their names. ... The Wends organized the journey under the leadership of their Pastor, The Reverend Jan Kilian. Rev. Kilian was a scholar and prolific writer who translated from German into Wendish many books, such as Luther's Large Catechism and the Augsburg Confession. He also wrote Wendish prayer books, sermons, and tracts, as well as hymns and poems. Years later, Rev. Kilian was known to preach the same sermon in Wendish, German, and English on a Sunday morning. Kilian, a graduate of Leipzig University, was a strong leader and a logical choice to be the Moses of this 19th Century Exodus."
There you go - Kilian is Serbian (or Sorbian) surname :)
This is interesting. I have just had my dna analysed with ancestry.My Father was Serbian, my Mother English. I was intrigued with my results that showed 13% Ireland! I have no known Irish ancestors.
Look for the book Red and White - Belo i Crveno, by Ranka Kuić also known as Ranka Velšanka, an academic of Celtisticsin Great Britain. She dedicated her life to studying the Welsh(and Irish) - Serbian connections and it goes all the way to the poetry - the dominant colors in many poems are red and white, as well as the form of 10 syllables - deseterac. I may help you linking it to Vinca as I am researching a lot on that topic.
Did you know that Polish noblemen called thamselves "Sarmaci" which means "people of Sarmatia": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarmatism They thought that Polish people inherited courage, love towards freedom, bortherhood, bravery and being hospitable after Sarmatians. They were related to Illyrians too... Polish peole believed that ancient Polish rulers were rulers of "Ancient Lechia" (google it). In Ukrainian, a Lach means a Pole.
As for being viking... the first Polis ruler that accepted baptism, Mieszko I, is believed to have viking origins: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mieszko_I_of_Poland Mieszko, according to some sources, Mieszko could be the king of Wandals and Waneds (!). He's latin name known in Vatican was Dagome (Dagome may mean King of Wends): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagome_iudex https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wends
Mieszko I can be identified as the viking Skagul Toste: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skagul_Toste
Similarities between Mieszko and Skagul: * both had daughter Sigrid the Haughty - queen of Sweden and Denmank (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigrid_the_Haughty), * both lived at the same time, * both are believed to invade shores of Sweden, * both had a grandson Cnut the Great (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cnut_the_Great) that invaded England * both had a grandson Olof Skotkonung (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olof_Sk%C3%B6tkonung)
However, there are many differences. I think that Nords knew Mieszko only as a viking-invader and Poland knows Mieszko as their ruler.
I've been trying to find your contact info. Just discovered your blog and wanted to say that there's a whole community around Jonathan Pageau's channel "The Symbolic World" engaging with symbolism. We're always doing it from a Christian perspective, but many topics overlap (e.g. the square and compass symbolism). I really recommend that you check out Jonathan's channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/JonathanPageau
His brother, Matthieu Pageau, has written a book called "The Language of Creation" which deals with Old Testament symbolism (genesis in particular) and we also have a discord server to discuss these topics.
This might be of interest:
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"The Wends were descended from a group of Slavic tribes that had developed a common language and, in the 10th Century, occupied much of central Europe.
...
The Wendish migration to Texas was impelled, in part, by the Prussian insistence that the Wends (or Sorbs, as they called themselves) speak and use the German language, even to the extent of Germanizing their names.
...
The Wends organized the journey under the leadership of their Pastor, The Reverend Jan Kilian. Rev. Kilian was a scholar and prolific writer who translated from German into Wendish many books, such as Luther's Large Catechism and the Augsburg Confession. He also wrote Wendish prayer books, sermons, and tracts, as well as hymns and poems. Years later, Rev. Kilian was known to preach the same sermon in Wendish, German, and English on a Sunday morning. Kilian, a graduate of Leipzig University, was a strong leader and a logical choice to be the Moses of this 19th Century Exodus."
There you go - Kilian is Serbian (or Sorbian) surname :)
This is very very interesting indeed. Thank you.
DeleteThis is interesting. I have just had my dna analysed with ancestry.My Father was Serbian, my Mother English. I was intrigued with my results that showed 13% Ireland!
ReplyDeleteI have no known Irish ancestors.
Look for the book Red and White - Belo i Crveno, by Ranka Kuić also known as Ranka Velšanka, an academic of Celtisticsin Great Britain. She dedicated her life to studying the Welsh(and Irish) - Serbian connections and it goes all the way to the poetry - the dominant colors in many poems are red and white, as well as the form of 10 syllables - deseterac. I may help you linking it to Vinca as I am researching a lot on that topic.
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Did you know that Polish noblemen called thamselves "Sarmaci" which means "people of Sarmatia":
ReplyDeletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarmatism
They thought that Polish people inherited courage, love towards freedom, bortherhood, bravery and being hospitable after Sarmatians. They were related to Illyrians too... Polish peole believed that ancient Polish rulers were rulers of "Ancient Lechia" (google it). In Ukrainian, a Lach means a Pole.
As for being viking... the first Polis ruler that accepted baptism, Mieszko I, is believed to have viking origins:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mieszko_I_of_Poland
Mieszko, according to some sources, Mieszko could be the king of Wandals and Waneds (!). He's latin name known in Vatican was Dagome (Dagome may mean King of Wends):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dagome_iudex
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wends
Mieszko I can be identified as the viking Skagul Toste:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skagul_Toste
Similarities between Mieszko and Skagul:
* both had daughter Sigrid the Haughty - queen of Sweden and Denmank (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigrid_the_Haughty),
* both lived at the same time,
* both are believed to invade shores of Sweden,
* both had a grandson Cnut the Great (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cnut_the_Great) that invaded England
* both had a grandson Olof Skotkonung (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olof_Sk%C3%B6tkonung)
However, there are many differences. I think that Nords knew Mieszko only as a viking-invader and Poland knows Mieszko as their ruler.
Oh, I forgot. Triglav may be translated in Polish as Trzygów: "having three heads" - tri (trzy), glav (głów). Slavic is so universal :)
ReplyDeleteI've been trying to find your contact info. Just discovered your blog and wanted to say that there's a whole community around Jonathan Pageau's channel "The Symbolic World" engaging with symbolism. We're always doing it from a Christian perspective, but many topics overlap (e.g. the square and compass symbolism). I really recommend that you check out Jonathan's channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/JonathanPageau
ReplyDeleteHis brother, Matthieu Pageau, has written a book called "The Language of Creation" which deals with Old Testament symbolism (genesis in particular) and we also have a discord server to discuss these topics.
Thank you very much for your recommendation. I will check the YouTube channel definitely...
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